Beginner’s Guide to Surviving Your First 24 Hours in a New Country

Life Nomading Podcast

In this episode, we cover our top 5 favorite must-do tips for surviving your first 24 hours in a new country. It’s easy to get overwhelmed when visiting somewhere new for the first time. We’ve done it plenty of times and each time it gets easier because of the tips we talk about in this show. If you follow these beginner tips, your stay in a new country will be so much more pleasant. You’ll spend more time exploring, and less time stressing.

Isn’t that the goal after all?

Show Notes

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Top 5 Tip Topics Discussed:

  1. Download Google Maps locally to your phone before your flight or train ride
  2. Go straight to your lodging. Take a nap, and eat a snack!
  3. How best to strategize ATM’s and cash/paying for things
  4. What a SIM card is, how to find a cellular phone shop and why to use a SIM
  5. Grocery shopping, and why you should do it on your trip
  6. Take a walking tour the first full day you arrive

Our Bulgaria Adventure Trip:

Caroline Lloyd: @caromanifesto

Ian Hoyt: @IanHoyt


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Show Transcript

Caroline Lloyd: Like we, all of a sudden, I had never once made a cheese plate in my life, and all of a sudden that’s what were having for lunch. Like a spread of meats, and cheeses, and breads, fruits and vegetables, and we were just eating that.

Ian Hoyt: And beer, and beer, and wine, and beer.

Caroline Lloyd: Yeah, and beer at 1 o’clock.

Ian Hoyt: Hey there, fellow nomads. This is Ian!

Caroline Lloyd: And Caroline.

Ian Hoyt: And this is the Life Nomading Podcast.

Ian Hoyt: Well, welcome back, fellow life nomads. It is Ian and we are back at it for another episode of the Life Nomading podcast. Are you excited?

Caroline Lloyd: So excited. Life Nomading: 2.0, 2.2.

Ian Hoyt: And today we get to get into the guts. I feel like last week we kind of talked about where we’ve been and now we get to give you guys some real, tangible travel tips.

Caroline Lloyd: Some travel meat and potatoes.

Ian Hoyt: And I don’t know, but I mean we are starting off pretty strong today. This is one of our most cherished things we talk about on the regular when we’re traveling and it is around what you do in the first 24 hours when you get to a new destination.

Caroline Lloyd: And it took us a long time to get all this information through trial and error. So we’re really excited that we have it down to a science and we can present it to you.

Ian Hoyt: And that’s what we’re going to do. Now we’re talking about routines here. And as you read by the title, it’s the first 24 hours in a new country. And when we were traveling in Europe this last summer, we fell into this world where if we didn’t have a routine, it was really easy to get anxious and to have a fear of missing out and to maybe not be as productive and see the things you want to see while you’re in a new country. And we realized that a routine is so crucial.

Caroline Lloyd: And me coming from a creature of habit, I clinged to these routines, I can’t enter into a situation unless I feel fully prepared and this is the routine that got me to that place so I could really enjoy myself.

Ian Hoyt: And trust me, if you travel with Caroline, you’ll realize you need to have a routine because she needs her nap. She needs her granola bar.

Caroline Lloyd: But we’re going to talk about that when we talk about traveling with significant others because that is a full episode. And we learned a lot about each other.

Ian Hoyt: Anyway. So yeah, routine, it’s kind of contradictory, right? A nomad there. You’re traveling all over the place, you’re home for one month and then you’re gone for three and then you’re home and the routines aren’t really typically there. Um, but I think that’s actually just an incredible falsehood. I think routine is at the core of almost the human condition and we’re not going to get into that. I’m not a philosophy major or a psychology major or any of that. But yeah, I think, I think routine runs deep in everyone’s being.

Caroline Lloyd: So a lot of this content is how to avoid the grunge of traveling. It’s not all the glamorous instagram stars: You hop off the plane and everything works out perfectly. There are logistics that you have to take care of beforehand and during to set you up for a successful travel arrangement.

Ian Hoyt: And I think if you’re not having any of that quote-unquote grunge that Caroline just said you’re actually doing something wrong. I think the beauty of travel is also in having to define those routines and having to figure that out and having things go wrong. But we’re going to try to set the stage for some of the core; The guts of the things that you need when you’re in a foreign country, when you’re not coddled by America and Mcdonald’s on every corner. And your parents’ wifi and Netflix. I mean, you probably have netflix in a foreign country, but you’re not going to be watching Netflix because you’re going to be adventuring.

Caroline Lloyd: Or Uber, or your car, or your language.

Ian Hoyt: So, um, so let’s, let’s get into it. So if you listen to this episode a couple of days in advance, before you go to a new country, you’re going to have a really good basis on, “okay, when I land, I need to do X, Y, Z, and then the rest is taken care of” and you can focus on choosing things you want to do, things you don’t want to do and go from there.

Caroline Lloyd: So there’s a lot of starting points in planning the trip. So most of it is done, you know, researching: you’re laying on the couch, you book where you’re going to stay, whether it be a hostel or an airbnb or a hotel. One of the things that you need to note about that is where it is in relationship to the city that you are going to explore. And I say that because it’s really important. Once you land in a new country, you need to download the Google maps of that destination.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah. That’s probably one of the number one tips and this whole thing. Downloading the google maps. So you’re going to find yourself probably with maybe a full day’s worth of not having really consistent cellular coverage. And so you can actually download Google maps locally to your phone for the city or the country or however big you want to make that cached area, but you’re going to have access to all of the maps you’re going to need from when you get into the train station or the airport to get to your place where you’re staying. So definitely do that in advance when you’re on Wifi.

Caroline Lloyd: And the reason we say to do it in advance, because you absolutely can do it once you get to your destination, but the biggest trouble point is getting from your mode of transportation station, meaning the airport or the train station or the bus stop wherever you’re coming from to where you’re staying. So you’re kind of jumping from ponds of wifi to the next pond.

Ian Hoyt: And that’s the most critical point because you’ve probably been traveling all day, so you’re tired. You probably didn’t get a good meal while you’re traveling, so you’re going to get hangry, right? And we’re going to talk about that more. If you’re traveling with someone else, then you have double the emotions and everything is just double heightened. Right?

Caroline Lloyd: You sound like you’re talking from experience, Ian. Who is this monster you’re traveling with?

Ian Hoyt: I don’t know? Who’s this monster that needs a nap every day? Um, but anyway, so just be prepared. And if you can do your research beforehand to get from mode of transport, like Caroline said, to your staying arrangements, it’s gonna make you feel a lot better.

Caroline Lloyd: So things to look for here are making decisions like, am I going to take public transportation from the station to where I’m staying? Am I going to take a taxi? Do I need to get cash to pay for that taxi?

Ian Hoyt: Let’s talk about that for a little while because I think starting out, let’s just take our Europe trip for example, because it’s easiest. I think the more and more countries we went to over the course of the time we were gone, we relied heavier and heavier and heavier on public transport. Now that’s also a product because the more we progressed, the more accessible public transport was. But also, it’s in a lot of ways a) it’s always cheaper and b) it’s actually, in my opinion, sometimes easier because you don’t have to deal with A) A foreign language and the barriers of translating. B) you don’t have to worry about being ripped off if you’re in a country that might be known for something like that and C) if, if you’re used to any type of public transportation in general, they’re all generally kind of the same. I mean, sure there are intricacies with validation on passes and things like that, but for the most part you can look at a map. It’s going to take you somewhere and if you’re not going directly to your place, you’re either going to be on a subway or you’re walking.

Caroline Lloyd: You’re also navigating on your own and you’re not just depending on someone else to get you where you want to go. So, therefore, you’re learning a lot more about the city and you’re also learning a lot more about the people. Let’s talk about people watching on public transit.

Ian Hoyt: It’s fantastic, but to the point about learning the city: Before I moved to New York City, I’ve only been here for two years (not even), but before that I lived in Columbus and Cincinnati, Ohio, all these different cities that I didn’t take public transportation and I didn’t know how to navigate these places because I was so reliant on GPS giving me directions and things like that. In New York. I know how to navigate around New York better than I do in a lot of cities that I spent four or five times the amount in, because of that, and I think the same is true when you’re traveling internationally.

Caroline Lloyd: Okay, so you’ve gotten off the plane, you’ve figured out a way to get to where you’re staying. I always think that the first place you should go in a new city is where you’re staying to drop off all of your stuff. The only way that you can really explore and be free and in new city and get this laundry list of things done in a timely and enjoyable manner (and we’ll talk more about that in a second), is to get rid of all of your stuff.

Ian Hoyt: All the stuff that you have in your life.

Caroline Lloyd: Another great reason to do that is because if you haven’t gotten a cellular data plan, your lodging will most likely have wifi where you can navigate where you’re going to to get that data.Or maybe have a snack, drink some water, take a nap, make sure that the next time that you’re leaving the door of your lodging, you’re approaching it with an open mind, and really going to enjoy yourself. The last thing that you want to do is to have your first adventure out in the city be miserable. So take care of yourself.

Ian Hoyt: Take a nap, take a snack, whatever.

Caroline Lloyd: Chug a bottle of water. Eat a granola bar.

Ian Hoyt: We could spend an hour just reiterating this because it is so important.

Caroline Lloyd: I have this running joke with my family about snacks, but we have to say it in a northern accent like snacks.

Ian Hoyt: Snacks, I’m from Minnesota. Sorry anyone listening for Minnesota, but we’ve got to get some snacks. Wait, your mom is from…

Caroline Lloyd: My mom has a Minnesota accent and so she always says, pack some snacks because everyone is a lot happier with the snacks. So I never leave a country that I am ending a trip in and go to the next country without some sort of snack. Because when I’m hungry I get hungry and then around me gets miserable.

Ian Hoyt: She’s not a fun traveler when she’s hungry or tired, but you’re getting better. You’re getting more resilient.

Caroline Lloyd: I’m not getting better. I am more prepared and that’s what this list is about. So let’s backtrack a little bit. You landed, you made your way to your lodging, you dropped off your stuff, you prepared yourself to enter in the world, and then this is your first outing. Our first stop on the sidewalk is normally an ATM.

Ian Hoyt: If you didn’t need it to get to your lodge in the first place, because that could be a thing. You should get cash as soon as possible, whether it’s when you land or get in the station or when you get done resting and napping.

Caroline Lloyd: Here’s a word of advice. ATMs in airports or the currency exchange in airports normally charge you a hefty fee. So unless you’re absolutely positive that you need cash to leave the airport to get to your lodging, wait.

Ian Hoyt: If we are in a pretty affluent country that accepts credit card transactions pretty readily, then we’ll use that by default. We’ll probably use our credit card, but we’ll take out enough cash to kind of cover our tips. Also, if you’re in the mindset, which I like to be, sometimes you pull out enough money that you think you can get through the week or however long you’re there and then that’s kind of your budget. You know, you have it physically in hand and you try not to spend more. I know we did that a ton in Bulgaria. Bulgaria also doesn’t really take credit card, but it was a great way to manage our finances.

Caroline Lloyd: If you don’t want to heavily rely on cash though, I think a good place to start is to get out enough cash that will survive one day. And then when you’re exploring, if you realize, you know, a lot of places don’t take credit card like I thought they would, you’re not in a pickle. Then you can go back and get that same amount for however long you’re staying in that country.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah, and one point to be made, if you’re using credit cards in foreign countries, there’s this thing called a foreign transaction fee. For most credit cards nowadays it’s. It’s typically waived or they cover it. But for debit cards, they don’t. I actually learned this the hard way when I first started to travel. I used my debit card a lot and then I just saw just troves and troves of foreign transaction fees. And they’re only like, you know, they’re typically only a couple bucks, but after awhile it adds up to be over hundreds of dollars sometimes depending on how, how long you travel. So use a credit card or use cash and leave the debit card in the wallet.

Caroline Lloyd: Now you’re a free person. You dropped off your stuff, you have money, you are ready to conquer the world, but there is one thing these days that is sometimes more important than cash. And that is your cell phone.

Ian Hoyt: How are you going to show the world on instagram that you’re traveling?

Caroline Lloyd: Well your camera works, but those instagram stories have to be uploaded in real time.

Ian Hoyt: So we’re talking about sim cards and data for the cell phone, and it is one of the more important things to stay connected to in our day and age.

Caroline Lloyd: Some plans and providers that are US based require you to completely own your phone. When we left for our trip, I just put a ton of money towards my phone to make sure that I wasn’t paying the hefty $10 a day fee for any call, text or data used internationally. So it wound up being a lot cheaper for me.

Ian Hoyt: If you’re traveling for a short amount of time, that might be okay. But if you’re traveling for a week or more and you’re trying to save money, there is no reason you shouldn’t use a sim card. SIM cards are really easy to get. A Sim card is essentially a little chip card that really functions as your phone. And so when you take the one that you have from your US carrier or wherever you are out, you can replace it with a local carrier. For example, in Vienna, we used T Mobile. Now I believe A1 was another carrier option, but we decided to go with T Mobile’s Sim card. All we had to do was walk in, ask for the right amount of data that we wanted and you popped it out of your phone, the Sim card of your carrier. Make sure you hold onto it because you’re going to need it again. And then you just pop in your new Sim card from, in this case, Austria. And you’re going to have an Austrian phone number while you’re there. Now you can only make phone calls to other Austrian numbers, but you can use the data which is worth its weight in gold. You can use apps like Whatsapp and Facebook Messenger and things like that to curb that need to make phone calls and texts.

Caroline Lloyd: So anytime that you’re in a new country, before you put in a Sim card of that country, just keep your phone on airplane mode.

Ian Hoyt: Keeping your phone on airplane mode prevents your phone carrier from potentially charging you the fixed international daily fee that can amount to a lot of money. So keep it on airplane mode unless you’re on Wifi and even then keep it on airplane mode until you get the new sim card in.

Caroline Lloyd: So I think in one of the countries we didn’t even buy a card that showed text messages or phone calls. It was purely a data plan and since I wasn’t trying to call or text anyone in that country, that was the best plan for me.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah. And I mean prices vary from country to country, but it’s typically ridiculously cheap to do.

Caroline Lloyd: I never spent more than 15 US dollars for trips that we spent up to nine days in a country.

Ian Hoyt: And again, for context you could be spending on that same amount of time 90 to 100 bucks in international fees with your carrier. I had to do it sometimes. So I know how much that hurt. I’ve found that we get by for a week with like anywhere from half a gig to two gigs worth of data. And we’re even hotspotting with that. So, you know, don’t overdo what you purchase. You can always reload your sim card, so start smaller and you’d be surprised. You’re going to be busy looking at the sites and you’re going to be spending less time on your phone than you think you are.

Caroline Lloyd: Okay. So the next step, is a little bit more fun because this is the first time that you’re actually doing something not on your mom’s laundry list since you landed. And this step includes going to get some snacks, and some groceries, and maybe a few meals depending on how long you’re staying there, and what your budget is. But I think that this is really what made our trip a success, and that is buying groceries so that you can have a nice balance of eating at home and eating out. One for your digestive system and also for your bank account.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah. When people think of travel, they don’t necessarily first think to grocery shop. They are going to a new place. They want to experience the culture and the food and the coffee and all that awesome stuff, but the reality of it is if you’re going to spend a week or longer anywhere, that stuff can add up and if you’re trying to travel more or more often, you’re going to need to grocery shop and you’re going to need to save money on food.

Caroline Lloyd: You also want to feel good while you’re in these countries.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah, Schnitzels add up.

Caroline Lloyd: They add up in your stomach too.

Ian Hoyt: Milinki in Bulgaria, which is the best bread ever; We had too much of it.

Caroline Lloyd: I, honestly, this is an aside, but I think in Bulgaria we didn’t buy any groceries and I had a hard time though. It wasn’t even a money thing and by the end of that trip I wanted to buy groceries. I also feel strongly that you get a different perspective of the place that you’re in and the people that live when you walk into their local grocery store.

Ian Hoyt: Spoiler alert: We love Aldi’s in Europe. I mean, even though it is a chain, each Aldi is different in a different country and we saw that firsthand with what we were picking up in the store and it was pretty cool. It was great to see the local differences I guess.

Caroline Lloyd: So we have a kind of worked out grocery list that we pick up in every country. Some of those items are things that kind of keep our diets in check and consistent, but also we always leave room for local foods, local cheeses, local meats, little crackers that are very specific, you know, throw in a couple of candy bars that are local to that country

Ian Hoyt: And I’ll lobby for like local sodas or the local wines.

Caroline Lloyd: We try to fill the gaps of large meals that we’re eating out. Sure, eat dinner out every single night, but you’re not going to want to have a big breakfast, lunch, and dinner out in restaurants.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah. You don’t need to go out for breakfast every morning.

Caroline Lloyd: But with a twist, I have to say, when we were in Budapest, we went to a local farmer’s market and got local honey, and they had so many great different flavors and we put that on our breakfast every morning. It was great. Or like peppers or like things that you aren’t familiar with. Try them out in your own cooking situation rather than just being served them. And protein bars are my go tos for snacks when you’re hangry. I always had about three of those in my bag at all times.

Ian Hoyt: It’s time to talk about one of our favorite parts. I know I said that to like each one. Like my favorite part is getting a sim card and my favorite part is getting groceries. I just love travel so maybe I just love it all, but we’re being serious now. This is our profession.

Caroline Lloyd: Well we’re also kind of dipping into your activities now. I don’t want to tell you what sites to see in every destination that you are going to, but one activity that you have to do is a walking tour.

Ian Hoyt: Preferably a free walking tour.

Caroline Lloyd: And most countries have free walking tours, especially European countries. They’re kind of a staple and not as popular in the US, but the reason that we hype these so much is because similar to taking public transit, it gives you such a layout for the place that you’re in.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah, I mean this is the one time we sway from like… Even if it does feel maybe a little touristy, you’re going to see the things and you’re going to get to meet at least one look like guaranteed local, which would be the guide. And we’re cool. We know we’re cool here in New York during walking tours.

Caroline Lloyd: So by meeting that guide who is a local, that is pretty much how we planned the remainder of our trip. That heavily influenced every single place that we went to because they recommended areas to go visit, which museums to actually go to, which museums to skip, where to eat, what to eat. My only recommendation is that as soon as the walking tour is over, write everything that piqued your interest down. I think just kind of brain-dump when you’re done with the tour, so that the things that really stuck out in your mind you can follow up on later, and not necessarily commit to them, but make a choice later on whether or not you prioritize that.

Ian Hoyt: And don’t be afraid. I’m just coming from our experience here in New York. Don’t be afraid to ask your guide recommendations for like restaurants and great places to get a drink. My favorite part of our walking tours is giving those recommendations because that’s the real stuff that we live and breathe every day, so try to get that out of them at the end if they’re not busy.

Caroline Lloyd: And don’t forget to tip your tour guide.

Ian Hoyt: Don’t forget to tip your tour guide, especially on a free tour. Please tip.

Caroline Lloyd: You know, beyond any of this, one thing that we really enjoyed is figuring out coffee shops to go to. I think that that, especially in our age group, is a staple in really figuring out what the culture is.

Ian Hoyt: It’s definitely one of those optional add ons in the first 24 hours. If you’re a coffee drinker, you know how important it is to find.

Caroline Lloyd: It was not optional for us. I woke up at 8:00 in the morning and that’s the first thing on my list.

Ian Hoyt: It’s a serious thing because in a lot of countries, no matter where in the world, coffee culture is different. Everywhere coffee culture is different. And so you’re not going to get your 16 ounce drip coffee like you’re going to get in the US. You’re not going to get that in Bulgaria, for example. So you need to be prepared and try to find an equivalent, something that works for you besides the fact that you might just like coffee culture. Which I do. Which is also fun. And there’s an easement of being in a coffee shop for some reason.

Caroline Lloyd: There is also an easement when that caffeine hits your blood.

Ian Hoyt: Yeah. And the headache goes away. Yeah. Alright. I’m going to switch it up here. You don’t even know what I’m about to ask, but here we go. So what would you say is your favorite uneasiness in that first 24 hours? What would you say your favorite thing is?

Caroline Lloyd: Napping. I need to expand on that though. So napping is my favorite part because it makes me feel so much better compared to how jet lagged and miserable I was. And there is something about waking up feeling 10 times better than you did when you fell asleep. Drinking a huge glass of water and being a little bit hungry but enough that you can go and explore and find something that you didn’t plan for dinner. And sometimes even on our first night we happen upon our most favorite restaurant.

Ian Hoyt: So your favorite thing is the feeling you get after your nap.

Caroline Lloyd: In life? Always.

Caroline Lloyd: You have to answer too. What’s your most favorite part about arriving?

Ian Hoyt: An evening cheers.

Caroline Lloyd: The post-nap alcohol at dinner.

Ian Hoyt: There’s a comfort in sitting – like there’s not a comfort in finding a restaurant, obviously, that’s always annoying. I mean, I love the adventure. Don’t get me wrong, that’s the whole point, but there’s that comfort of just sitting down in the seat. The seat is yours, the table is yours for the next hour or two and you can just chill.

Ian Hoyt: So that’s our guide to the first 24 hours in a new country. Now by no means do you have to follow that to a tee and there’s probably other things that maybe you do when you enter a new country and we’d love to hear about it. The best way is send us a DM on instagram. If you have an awesome idea, we would love to share it with our community. So send us a DM on instagram.

Ian Hoyt: @lifenomading and we will share that with our followers.

Caroline Lloyd: If you’re curious about this place that we keep talking about, Bulgaria, feel free to check us out at We’ll be hosting a summer 2019 trip to Bulgaria that’s 10 days and nine nights. You should definitely check it out. It’s an amazing place to go.

Ian Hoyt: So fellow nomads, that’s it for this week’s episode. We hope you learned a couple things about your first 24 hours in a new country. Again, you can find us on any major podcast platform from iTunes, Overcast, and Spotify. Be sure to subscribe, and if you get a second, please leave a review. It helps us so much. So until next week, I’m Ian.

Caroline Lloyd: And I’m Caroline.

Ian Hoyt: And we’ll see you next time. Bye.

Introducing Life Nomading Podcast 2.0

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Kicking off 2019 with a bang, we’d like to introduce the new and improved Life Nomading podcast! No longer a dormant trove of audio files, instead we’re back and we’re excited to be bringing you fresh travel episodes every single Monday morning. So tune in and spend some time every week with Caroline and me as we explore the world and share it with you.

In this episode, we give a rundown of what all has happened and what is currently going on at Life Nomading since the last episode 3 years ago. Buckle up, because we have plenty of exciting news to share.

Show Notes

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Ian Hoyt: And she’s not kidding, we’re literally sitting on the floor. We have two microphones, different microphone, cardboard boxes, cardboard boxes. We have one glass of whiskey to offset the frustration of setting up technology. Just so we can record semi decent audio. So wherever you’re at, you can hear us

Ian Hoyt: Hey there, fellow nomads. This is Ian and Caroline, and this is the Life Nomading podcast,

Ian Hoyt: Hey there, fellow listeners. Welcome back to the Life Nomading podcast. It’s been awhile. It’s been about three years, two years since the last substantial episode has hit your podcast feed, so I’m pumped if you’re listening from the past life, but I’m even more excited if you’re a new listener. Excited to go in this 2019 journey with us as we reboot Life Nomading and bring some travel content and I’m not alone this time. I have a cohost and her name is Caroline. Caroline, how’s it going?

Caroline Lloyd: It’s going well. I’m excited to be here.

Ian Hoyt: Is it weird having microphones in your face?

Caroline Lloyd: Yeah, I’ve pretty much tried to avoid that at all costs in my life. Um, There’s a reason that I’m not a singer like everyone else in my family, so this is a step of bravery for me.

Ian Hoyt: And we are sitting on the floor of our New York apartment in Harlem because we can’t afford anything else

Caroline Lloyd: with mics propped up by cardboard boxes.

Ian Hoyt: Literally cardboard boxes. We had to throw the cat out because it was pawing at all the chords. But anyway, we’re here. Uh, we’re happy to have you. Thanks for listening. Uh, we’re going to make this quick. This is a quick little intro episode. Life Nomading podcast has existed before, but we’re new. We’re improved and we’re ready.

Caroline Lloyd: We’re going to be consistent.

Ian Hoyt: Consistency is key. Anyone that has gotten anywhere has been consistent in life. So we are going to be doing this podcast every single week.

Caroline Lloyd: New episodes dropping on Mondays for your morning commute to make them a little bit less miserable and you can dream about traveling the world on your way to work.

Ian Hoyt: And to that point Life Nomading has been in an evolution the last two or three years since I last graced you with a podcast episode.

Caroline Lloyd: Graced you with that lovely voice.

Ian Hoyt: It was still deep back then. I was still old enough to have a deep voice.

Caroline Lloyd: I feel like you were up playing it a little bit more like you’re. You’re not like going full radio host right now,

Ian Hoyt: Which is good. I hope not. I’m not. I’m trying to be authentic Yo, but here we are so we have this podcast, but Life Nomading is so much more than a podcast now. So Life Nomading started in like 2014 for context for me to write about my feelings about travel and life in general and people actually started to read it. People actually started to connect over it, not just with me but with other readers. We created a facebook group and then all of a sudden this community started to form out of thin air and I was pretty excited. People were connecting over this travel thing, this, you know, doing something different than the regular normal thing and so from 2014 to now it has evolved from being just a blog and a podcast to now we’re doing so much more and for example, this year actually, or sorry last year in 2018, we launched our first group trip to Iceland, a Life Nomading group trip is where we take about 10 people and we just, we plan it all and people arrive into this awesome foreign country they’ve never been to before and we do incredible things that are authentic to the culture in the country,

Caroline Lloyd: but it’s not your typical group travel, right? So it’s not just everyone piling onto a coach bus and you sit there all day and look out the window. You’re really truly experiencing things. You’re getting to know your fellow travelers. You are exploring on your own and you are testing the boundaries of who you are in this new area. This new country, so it’s really different than, you know, walking around with a tour guide with the flag on. So we want the group trip to be really authentic.

Ian Hoyt: Absolutely. And uh, I’m not going to ruin the itinerary or like what do we do in Iceland? You’re either going to have to go on that trip or b. Listen to future episodes to learn more about that. Uh, but what I can say is of all the people on that trip, uh, we got so many responses, hey, this actually changed my life, like this made me want to travel more or made me want to do x, y, z after this trip we can’t stop talking about this trip. And that was exciting to us because our whole mission at Life Nomading is to make group travel authentic. And so group trips have been great and we’re expanding those trips and we’ll talk a little bit more about that in a second. Actually, maybe we should backtrack even more. Let’s Caroline, who are you?

Caroline Lloyd: I have always wanted to travel. Um, but I’ve also been a very tight planner in life in my day to day activities. I walk around with a paper planner is still, I know that most people don’t even know this existed anymore. Um, but I had very clear cut timelines for my life and traveling, unfortunately, did not fit into that timeline. So, you know, I was following my life timeline pretty perfectly if I do say so myself. Um, and I found myself in a job that I had pretty much dreamed of my entire life. Um, and then I realized that I had accomplished it pretty quickly. I was pretty curious to travel again. So I quit my job in summer 2018 to take a two month trip with Ian.

Ian Hoyt: So also for context, we gotta we gotta set the stage for this pinnacle change that happened. Do you remember the night vividly?

Caroline Lloyd: We’re cooking dinner in your apartment.

Ian Hoyt: My sublet apartment watching Netflix and we’re watching some random.

Caroline Lloyd: You know, one of those like, like millennial generation, quit your job, travel the world, live in a bus, take your dog, live your best life, really inspirational indie music.

Ian Hoyt: Mogli, right? Yeah. Awesome music. We Love Mogli. If, if, if you’re listening, can we use your music in our podcast anyway…

Caroline Lloyd: So like I still, I can’t take off without playing that album because it just reminds me that I am off to a new adventure and that is just a pinnacle moment. Anyway.

Ian Hoyt: Music has so much deployed with adventure for some reason it’s Cliche, but we’re sitting there watching this documentary now mind you, obviously I have context, I’ve traveled, blah, blah, blah, blah. You on the other hand, you know you’ve stayed domestic. You haven’t really gone many places.

Caroline Lloyd: For context. I was looking for other jobs at the time, so I got to this crossroads where I could either continue applying and I think I was on like a second interview for a new job

Ian Hoyt: And you’re just hating it. You’re just not into it.

Caroline Lloyd: I didn’t realize it that I knew I wanted out of my job, but I didn’t realize that I was applying for jobs that would put me back in that exact situation two years down the road. And I think when I realized that that gave me the courage to, you know, make a drastic change in my life.

Ian Hoyt: And so we were watching that thing and did we book the tickets that day? Was it that day?

Caroline Lloyd: No, we were going to go to South America first and then we’re looking at South America for a really long time and we had grand plans of going for a full year.

Ian Hoyt: So we sat on the concept of dropping the grand vision was dropped everything and travel indefinitely, like a true, true, true, true, true nomad.

Caroline Lloyd: And I’m like there’s absolutely no way that we’re going to be able to do this. And I’m the type that’s just like, it works itself out, which we need to get back to you. We met in the middle, we met in the middle and things worked out a lot easier that way anyways, so we’re trying to figure out where to go, how to do this. And so Ian pulls in his expertise, friends Mitko and Sarah.

Ian Hoyt: Shout out to them. They’re also on the team.

Caroline Lloyd: So originally we were just asking them for advice or like, you know what, what to do, how to get started.

Ian Hoyt: Sarah was and they travel extensively together, which traveling as a couple, as much different than traveling solo. We sat on the idea and we realized that they were going to be in eastern Europe in the summer like they always are because Mitko, he is originally from Bulgaria and we’re like, why don’t we just go hang out with them? I think that’s Kinda just how I happened.

Caroline Lloyd: Well we didn’t ask. We politely were invited first and then we weighed our options and we accepted.

Ian Hoyt: So she drops her job. We have a logistical nightmare of finding like four sublets.

Ian Hoyt: We should do a whole episode of sub-leasing in New York. We don’t want to get sidetracked too much, but long story short, my biggest phrase in life is it’ll all just work out, which is cliche and really simplistic. But what happened?

Caroline Lloyd: So three subleasers later. We put our stuff in storage and we left for Europe for two months.

Ian Hoyt: We found three subletters at all different levels of subletting.

Caroline Lloyd: I had attempted to find a job that I could work remotely during the trip and ended up applying for jobs while I was on the trip, which still works out.

Ian Hoyt: It’s going to be another episode for sure on how to work and travel and just all that crazy stuff. But long story short is we spent the summer in eastern Europe, um, a majority of it in Bulgaria. And um, that’s actually where our next group trip is going to be for 2019. Uh, so that’s a long-winded way of explaining how we got from a blog, podcast to Iceland to Bulgaria to a new podcast and welcome. We’re excited to be here.

Caroline Lloyd: So we spent the summer in Europe and it was great and we’ll have episodes about that later. But one of the things that kind of came to us in a miraculous moment of realization was when we get to a new destination, new city or new country, the first thing that we would do on the morning that we woke up we went on a walking tour.

Caroline Lloyd: Now in Europe, a lot of the walking tours are free. They happen every day and there are just crowds of people that come to them and it gives so much context for the rest of your stay in whatever destination that you’re in, you know, the landscape where things are, you know, best areas for restaurants, history, culture. It was just so informative and changed the way that we interpreted what that city had to offer that we had to take a step back and realize that we live in a city that is, you know, a pinnacle city of the US. So after going on all of these walking tours in Europe, we wanted to start our own in New York. Now New York is not short of any tours or tourist attractions.

Ian Hoyt: I think they have like five, I think.

Caroline Lloyd: Yeah, I mean you can like to cover your basis. Uh, but we wanted to offer something different.

Caroline Lloyd: You know, we wanted to offer your things from a local’s perspective with the history and the context that you need, but really giving a true, authentic experience which aligns with what we do on our group trips. Yeah. So one of the ways that we made it really stand out and be authentic is that we started doing tours in our favorite area of the city, which is the Upper West Side. And after doing a little bit of research we realized that there weren’t any tours of this area, which is a shame because it’s very historical and it’s beautiful in a lot of people. Never even make it outside of Times Square. Right. So we launched our upper west side tour and then we also launched a midtown tour, which does cover a lot of the touristy sites, but from an experiential standpoint that is a little bit more authentic.

Caroline Lloyd: So we have two tours going on in New York right now and it’s really been eyeopening. I’m kind of relating back to where Life Nomading started with the blog. We’ve really started to see a community start to build. So within this community, we’re starting to, you know, make connections all over the world and it feels really great to share our city with international travelers just as we learn about their city when we’re traveling. Um, so it’s kind of reciprocal feedback there.

Ian Hoyt: We just want to be the vessel to be able to meet other travelers and we’re hoping that we can do that with this podcast, with the blog and with our trips and tours, we’re extremely excited to be back at it podcasting and above all else consistently every single week. On what day?

Caroline Lloyd: Mondays.

Ian Hoyt: Every single Monday we’re going to be here with new travel content, whether it’s interviews with industry experts, uh, whether it’s a new travel guide or hacking guide of some sort or other, or whether it’s just kind of a chronicle of our experiences in different countries and cities. We’re going to be bringing something new to you every week for your commute or for your walking the dog time and we hope that maybe it helps you push over the ledge that we pushed over ourselves and begin traveling more.

Ian Hoyt: So if you’re down for some travel content, you’re down for learning a little bit more about how to travel more in your life. Maybe this is the podcast to subscribe to. We’d love to have you. So until next time I’m Ian.

Caroline Lloyd: I’m Caroline

Ian Hoyt: And if you have any suggestions for us for future episodes, please email us at podcast[@] That’s podcast[@]

LN 006: Millennial Probs with Megan Tan

Megan Tan | Millennial Podcast

Who is Megan Tan? That’s a great question, and one you definitely should be asking. Fortunately for me, she is a good friend but fortunately for you, she is a millennial on a mission. In this podcast episode we dig deep into Megan’s journey from college to now and talk about the struggles that us millennials face on a daily basis and how she is documenting it.

…Don’t be afraid to, to make your goals bigger than what you think you can achieve and then just go after them. A lot of times when I’m afraid to do something, I tell myself “You have nothing to lose, so why not?” and then I just rip off the bandaid and do it. – Megan

Megan Tan - Millennial Podcast

Megan in her recording studio… a 1X5′ Closet!

What you will learn in this episode

  • How Megan Tan went about starting her Millennial Podcast
  • Some great insight into being an accountability tool for friends vs. a babysitter for their dreams.
  • The anxieties that come with our generation and the reasons behind that.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Like I have said a million times, if you haven’t listened to Megan Tan’s podcast you can do so by going to

Follow her and the podcast on Twitter: @HearMillennial

Leave an honest review on iTunes, and reach out to Megan and tell her how you liked it.

Also mentioned in this episode a few times, is a previous guest: Ben Severance

Final Thoughts

Megan Tan | Millennial Podcast

Taken by Ben Severance

This episode was a long time coming. Megan is such a great person and it was wonderful having her on the show. Her perspective is one that I find super valuable in this journey we all call life. Thank you Megan for shedding some light, and more importantly thank you for the value and insight you bring to all of us on your podcast.

Have questions about this episode or for Megan? Leave them in the comments below!

LN 005: Finding What Works with David Sherry from Death to the Stock Photo

David Sherry | Death to the Stock Photoa

David Sherry is a friend and someone I have looked up to in the creative business space for the past year. Funny thing is, I would have never thought I would have had the chance to pick his brain about the creative world. David is the co-founder of a startup called Death to the Stock Photo, which creates monthly free photo packs for use by creatives who need to make their website, blog articles, books, or marketing materials look great with visual deliciousness.

In this episode, David and I talk about finding what works in your pursuits toward starting a business or refining your personal brand. We focus on how your brand is you and that alone is what can set you apart. We talk about his failures and his wins and really dig deep into what it is like for him to live as a remote working founder of a creative brand.

…Artist, I think you have to look at your work like an artist. Make sure you are taking risks like an artist. Figure out, whatever your platform is for trying things, I think that is the core thing that you have to create for yourself, you just need a platform. -David

Death to the Stock Photo

Beautiful photography from Death to the Stock Photo (I use this one for advertising)

What you will learn in this episode

  • David Sherry’s background and his path towards Death to the Stock Photo
  • How to pull inspiration
  • How to strengthen your brand whether it be personal or business
  • Whether there is such a difference from personal brands and your business

Links mentioned in this episode:

Join Death to the Stock Photo for free and get a new photo pack every month, or go Premium for $10/month to get full access to all of their beautiful and inspiring photos.

Want to learn more about David? Visit his website at

Find him in the Twitter world @DavidSherry36 but make sure to stay up-to-date on his Instagram life as well @brandswell

David mentioned he finds inspiration and mentorship by specific people in each sector of life such as Seth Godin, Chris Mcallister, Brian Zuercher, Remit Sethi and even a young photographer Joe Curtin.

His favorite Seth Godin book is All Marketers Are Liars

Going to Chicago anytime soon? Visit his favorite Chicago BBQ joint, County Barbeque for lunch or dinner.

Death to the Stock Photo’s creative end has Allie Lehman written all over it! Be sure to check out her beautiful blog. I have yet to meet her (this is a call out to get coffee some time) but she seems like a cool cat on twitter.

Final Thoughts


Death to the Stock Photo

Death to the Stock Photo

This was a jam packed episode with countless moments of inspiration and quality conversation. I had a lot of fun talking with David Sherry about his journey to where he is today. The thing I am most excited about is sitting back and watching where he will go, and where Death to the Stock Photo will go in the coming years. Thanks again man, and thanks everyone for listening!

Have questions about this episode or about Death to the Stock Photo and David in general? Leave them in the comments below!

LN 003: A look into an Airline Pilot’s Lifestyle with Al Waterloo

Al Waterloo | Simple Flight

Al Waterloo from Simple Flight joins me on the Life Nomading podcast in Episode 003. Al is all things aviation, and in this episode we tap into his experiences and the lifestyle as an airline pilot. If you are looking for a way into the traveling lifestyle, airlines have been the home to many young skyward gazing explorers.

We talk about the ups and downs of being on the flight crew in the airlines and we also talk about what it’s like always being on the road.

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LN 002: Remote Working and the Startup Lifestyle with Jay Clouse

Jay Clouse: COO at Tixers and Startup Weekend Organizer

Have you ever wondered what it’s like to be part of a startup company? If so, you’re in luck today. In this Life Nomading Episode my friend Jay Clouse gives us a first hand insight into his daily life as the COO of He talks to me about the pro’s and con’s to the startup lifestyle and what it’s like working remotely.

Jay’s involvement with the startup world goes much deeper than his position at Tixers, in-fact the fundamental thing that changed his life was Startup Weekend, an event held during a long weekend where entrepreneurs, coders, hackers, hustlers, and designers gather and pitch ideas for businesses to create in that same weekend. He must be telling the truth when he says it changed his life, because he is now an Organizer and Facilitator for Startup Weekends.

Startup Weekend

Jay with friend Suzy Bureau (Startup Weekend Organizer)

What you will learn in this episode:

Like explained above, you will learn what it’s like to work for a startup, remotely. Not only that, you will get insight into the personal battle we all have with staying positive even in times where it is difficult to do so.


Life is the longest thing you’ll ever have, but still too short to be upset about anything. – Jay

Links mentioned in this article:

Jay’s personal website:

Find him in the Twitter world @JayClouse

His first startup Market OSU, a platform like craigslist for Ohio State University students to buy and sell stuff.

Jay works for an awesome startup based out of Cincinnati called Tixers. Be sure to check them out next time you plan to go see a game, event, or concert. Have extra tickets to an event? Tixers will give you credits towards future events in return for tickets you want to get rid of too!

Briefly mentioned in this episode was a Columbus based entrepreneur and startup. Web Smith has found a ton of success in the past in Columbus, and he is now at it again with a super rad concept called Whence, check it out.

We spend a vast majority of the episode referencing some of the things only remote working people go through which you can read about a little more in detail.

Paul Graham, founder of Y-Combinator wrote an article questioning why 20 somethings should or should not start a business called “Before the Startup” . We talk about his philosophy behind this and why he really makes a lot of sense.

Last but not least, shout out to one of our favorite working coffee spots Caffe Apropos in Columbus, Ohio

Final Thoughts

I loved doing this episode, Jay is a great guy and turning out to be a great friend. I want to thank him one last time for taking an hour out of his bustling life to share his life with the Life Nomading community!

LN 001: Dream Bullies with Ben Severance

Ben Severance | Timber & Frame

In this episode my guest Ben Severance and I have a conversation over a case of Coronas and delicious pizza about his article The 5 Whys That Will Change Your Life and what a Dream Bully is and why you need one in your life.

This is the very first episode of the Life Nomading Podcast and I am extremely excited to be adding this to the Life Nomading line up. You can expect episodes twice monthly including interviews with people who have found success in following their passions, tutorials to help you work remotely, and other fun and valuable content in the traveling world.

Life Nomading PodcastWhat you will learn in this episode:

In this episode you learn how to use the 5 whys technique to discover what you are meant to be doing in life. In addition, you will know what a dream bully is and how you should go about finding one to have in your life. They will help you stay on track and get you to where you want to be.


Links mentioned in this episode:

Watch some of Ben Severance’s Timber & Frame videos

Be sure to LIKE Timber & Frame on Facebook

We also talked a bit about one of Ben’s favorite scenes in the movie Up in the Air. This scene is where Ryan calls out the man he is firing for selling out on his passion in life. Be sure to be sitting down when you watch it, it’s that powerful.

Thanks so much for listening and I look forward to the next episode! Be sure to subscribe below to get all of my podcast episodes sent to your inbox in addition I am offering exclusive free access to my Explorers Club on Facebook to anyone who subscribes!